{"id":8127,"date":"2025-03-30T08:00:40","date_gmt":"2025-03-30T13:00:40","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.learningandthebrain.com\/blog\/?p=8127"},"modified":"2025-03-30T08:00:40","modified_gmt":"2025-03-30T13:00:40","slug":"do-goals-motivate-students-how-about-feedback","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.learningandthebrain.com\/blog\/do-goals-motivate-students-how-about-feedback\/","title":{"rendered":"Do *Goals* Motivate Students? How about *Feedback*?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Motivation has been a HOT TOPIC this year in all the schools I&#8217;ve visited. Everywhere I go, I get questions about students&#8217; apathy and indifference, and teachers&#8217; frustration.<\/p>\n<p>So, what can schools and teachers do?<\/p>\n<p>Well, <span style=\"color: #000000;\"><b>Self-Determination Theory<\/b> offers a framework to answer that pressing question.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">In this post, I&#8217;m going to\u00a0introduce the theory &#8212; with a focus on its key concepts.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">And then I&#8217;ll describe a study which helpfully reveals the complexity of enacting the theory wisely.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">And, yes, as this post&#8217;s title suggests, that helpful study focuses on\u00a0<em>goals<\/em> and\u00a0<em>feedback<\/em> as motivational strategies.<\/p>\n<p>Let&#8217;s see what researchers have discovered about the motivational benefits of goals and feedback.<\/p>\n<h2>Introducing Self-Determination Theory<\/h2>\n<p>Like many theories, self-determination theory (SDT) can be easily caricatured. Here&#8217;s the caricature:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><em>Extrinsic<\/em> motivation BAD!<\/li>\n<li><em>Intrinsic<\/em> motivation GOOD!!<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>These\u00a0six words fall short in lots of ways, starting with this startling observation. SDT <em>doesn&#8217;t contrast intrinsic and extrinsic motivation<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p>Instead, it defines six (yes, SIX) different motivational states &#8212; including four (yes, FOUR) <em>different kinds of extrinsic motivation<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p>Here&#8217;s the kicker:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Unsurprisingly, <i>intrinsic<\/i> motivation is GOOD for learning.<\/li>\n<li>Surprisingly, two flavors of\u00a0<em>extrinsic<\/em> motivation are ALSO good for learning. (The other two flavors: not so much.)<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>The scholars who created the theory &#8212; Deci and Ryan &#8212; have a name for &#8220;good flavors of extrinsic motivation&#8221;; they call them &#8220;<em>autonomous <\/em>extrinsic motivation.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>At the top of this blog post, I asked: what can teachers do about apathetic students? Deci and Ryan answer: &#8220;foster\u00a0the good kinds of motivation.&#8221;<\/p>\n<h2>Let&#8217;s Get Fostering!<\/h2>\n<p>Okay, if &#8220;the good kinds of motivation&#8221; can help, how do we teachers conjure them?<\/p>\n<p>If I&#8217;m understanding SDT correctly, it includes bad news and good news.<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Bad news: we really <em>can&#8217;t create intrinsic motivation<\/em> (as Deci and Ryan define it).<\/li>\n<li>Good news: we really <em>CAN create autonomous extrinsic motivation<\/em>, which &#8212; as you recall &#8212; benefits learning.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>We foster this good extrinsic motivation by focusing on three internal experiences:\u00a0<strong>autonomy, relatedness<\/strong>, and\u00a0<strong>competence<\/strong>.<\/p>\n<p>That is: the more that my students feel in control (&#8220;autonomous&#8221;), close to one another (&#8220;related&#8221;), and effective at dealing with their environment (&#8220;competent&#8221;), the more autonous extrinsic motivation they will experience. And: the more they will learn.<\/p>\n<p>The obvious implication of this theory, then: let&#8217;s focus on enhancing our students&#8217; autonomy, relatedness, and competence.<\/p>\n<h2>Plausible Start<\/h2>\n<p>When I talk with teachers about\u00a0this theory, they can easily start to brainstorm suggestions for creating autonomy, relatedness, and competence &#8212; and, presumably, the good kind of extrinsic motivation.<\/p>\n<p>As a thought experiment, we can easily imagine that\u00a0<em>clear goals<\/em> will have those results. And, while we&#8217;re at it, we might predict that <i>process feedback<\/i> will likewise.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.learningandthebrain.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/AdobeStock_438218318.jpeg\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-7784 alignright\" src=\"https:\/\/www.learningandthebrain.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/AdobeStock_438218318-300x200.jpeg\" alt=\"Several middle school students eagerly raise their hands to answer questions\" width=\"300\" height=\"200\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.learningandthebrain.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/AdobeStock_438218318-300x200.jpeg 300w, https:\/\/www.learningandthebrain.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/AdobeStock_438218318-1024x683.jpeg 1024w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>But let&#8217;s go beyond a thought experiment. Let&#8217;s have an <em>experiment<\/em> experiment &#8212; with students and data and calculations and all that good stuff.<\/p>\n<p>What happens?<\/p>\n<p>Happily, a research team in the Netherlands wanted to know. They <a href=\"https:\/\/www.sciencedirect.com\/science\/article\/pii\/S0959475218303438\" target=\"_blank\">ran a survey study<\/a> with almost 600 students &#8212; aged 11 to 18 &#8212; in PE classes.<\/p>\n<p>They asked two sets of questions.<\/p>\n<p><strong>First<\/strong>: did the teachers\u00a0<em>clarify the goals<\/em> during class? That is, did they&#8230;<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>&#8230; tell the students what they were going to learn, or<\/li>\n<li>&#8230; how they would be evaluated?<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Likewise, did they\u00a0<em>offer process feedback<\/em>? That is, did they &#8230;<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>&#8230; encourage reflection on how to improve, or<\/li>\n<li>&#8230; discuss how to use the students&#8217; strengths?<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>And so forth.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Second:<\/strong> they asked if the students experienced greater autonomy, relatedness, and\/or competence.<\/p>\n<p>To be thorough, they also asked if they experienced LESS autonomy, relatedness, and\/or competence.<\/p>\n<p>Once they crunched all the numbers, what did this research team find?<\/p>\n<h2>Not Surprising, or Surprising?<\/h2>\n<p>From one perspective, this study seems to be asking rather obvious questions. I mean: OF COURSE students will feel more <em>autonomous<\/em> if we tell them what the goals are, or more <em>related<\/em> if we give them feedback.<\/p>\n<p>What other result would we expect?<\/p>\n<p>Here&#8217;s the thing: in the world of research, we don&#8217;t just assume; we\u00a0<em>measure<\/em>. And, sure enough, those measurements\u00a0gave us the results we (probably) expected.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\"><strong>Yes<\/strong>:\u00a0<em>clear goals<\/em> enhance autonomy, relatedness, and competence.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\"><strong>And yes<\/strong>:\u00a0<em>process feedback<\/em> does too.<\/p>\n<p>At the same time, the number crunching also provided surprising results.<\/p>\n<p>In some cases,\u00a0process feedback\u00a0<strong>reduced <\/strong>two of those classroom experiences: &#8220;relatedness&#8221; and &#8220;competence.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>While this result might seem surprising at first, I think it&#8217;s easy to understand the chain of emotional events here.<\/p>\n<p>If I give my students lots of feedback, they might feel like I&#8217;m hovering or pestering or interfering.<\/p>\n<p>Of course, &#8220;hovering, pestering, and interfering&#8221; could quite easily reduce\u00a0the quality of the teacher\/student relationship. And, they might also reduce my students&#8217; feelings of competence.<\/p>\n<p>In other words: all that feedback could suggest the students are not doing very well. And that feeling of incompetence could &#8212; in turn &#8212; reduce the quality of their relationship with the teacher.<\/p>\n<h2>Solving the Conundrum<\/h2>\n<p>So, which is it? Should teachers give students process feedback because it\u00a0<em>enhances<\/em> autonomy, relatedness, and competence? Or, should we limit process feedback, because it <em>reduces<\/em> relatedness and competence?<\/p>\n<p>As is so often the case, I think\u00a0we answer that question by\u00a0<em>rethinking the relationship between research and classroom practice<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p>Research can almost never tell teachers\u00a0<strong>what to do<\/strong>. Instead, research is awesome at helping us\u00a0<strong>think about what we do<\/strong>.<\/p>\n<p>In this case, our thought process might sound something like this:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>I want to create <em>autonomous extrinsic motivation<\/em>, so I should enhance my students&#8217; sense of\u00a0<em>competence<\/em>.<\/li>\n<li>[Thinking]<\/li>\n<li>I wonder if I can promote competence by giving them <em>lots of feedback during\u00a0<\/em>today&#8217;s class.<\/li>\n<li>[more thinking]<\/li>\n<li>Now that I think about it, my feedback could enhance their sense of competence. But if I give too much feedback &#8212; or unwanted feedback &#8212; students could infer that I don&#8217;t have confidence in them.<\/li>\n<li>[even more thinking]<\/li>\n<li>So, I&#8217;ll put a note in my lesson plan to make time for feedback. But first, I need to think about the cues my students give me when the feedback is just too much&#8230;<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Of course, those cues will look different depending on context.<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>2nd graders will give different cues than 7th graders.<\/li>\n<li>I suspect that &#8212; for cultural reasons &#8212; students in Japan signal frustration differently than those in New Zealand.<\/li>\n<li>Students react differently to the cool, with-it teacher than they do with me. (It&#8217;s been a minute since I was the cool, with-it teacher.)<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>And so forth.<\/p>\n<p>But if\u00a0I consider self-determination theory as a THOUGHT PROCESS, not a TO-DO LIST, I&#8217;m much likelier to get the results I want.<\/p>\n<p>In this case: my feedback is likelier to enhance than reduce competence. It&#8217;s therefore likelier to promote autonomous extrinsic motivation.<\/p>\n<p>And my students are likelier to learn.<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p>Krijgsman, C., Mainhard, T., van Tartwijk, J., Borghouts, L., Vansteenkiste, M., Aelterman, N., &amp; Haerens, L. (2019). Where to go and how to get there: Goal clarification, process feedback and students\u2019 need satisfaction and frustration from lesson to lesson.\u00a0<i>Learning and Instruction<\/i>,\u00a0<i>61<\/i>, 1-11.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Motivation has been a HOT TOPIC this year in all the schools I&#8217;ve visited. Everywhere I go, I get questions about students&#8217; apathy and indifference, and teachers&#8217; frustration. So, what can schools and teachers do? Well, Self-Determination Theory offers a framework to answer that pressing question. 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