{"id":4839,"date":"2019-07-26T08:00:54","date_gmt":"2019-07-26T13:00:54","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/braindevs.net\/blog\/blog\/?p=4839"},"modified":"2019-07-22T16:42:40","modified_gmt":"2019-07-22T21:42:40","slug":"the-mindset-controversy-carol-dweck-speaks","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.learningandthebrain.com\/blog\/the-mindset-controversy-carol-dweck-speaks\/","title":{"rendered":"The Mindset Controversy: Carol Dweck Speaks&#8230;"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>We&#8217;ve posted frequently about the Mindset Controversy in recent months.<\/p>\n<p>The short version goes like this:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/braindevs.net\/blog\/\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/07\/AdobeStock_185971469-Converted_Credit.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft size-medium wp-image-4844\" src=\"https:\/\/braindevs.net\/blog\/\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/07\/AdobeStock_185971469-Converted_Credit-300x251.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"251\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.learningandthebrain.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/07\/AdobeStock_185971469-Converted_Credit-300x251.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.learningandthebrain.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/07\/AdobeStock_185971469-Converted_Credit-768x642.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.learningandthebrain.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/07\/AdobeStock_185971469-Converted_Credit-1024x856.jpg 1024w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>After several decades of enthusiastic reception, Dweck&#8217;s work on fixed and growth mindset has come under increasingly skeptical scrutiny.<\/p>\n<p>A well-publicized meta-analysis showed <a href=\"https:\/\/braindevs.net\/blog\/\/is-it-time-to-re-re-think-mindset-research\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">only small effects<\/a> &#8212; both of mindset itself, and of growth mindset interventions.<\/p>\n<p>And, some non-replications have recently added new voices to the mindset-skeptical chorus. At the beginning of this month, for example, I wrote about a <a href=\"https:\/\/braindevs.net\/blog\/\/growing-mindsets-in-argentina\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">non-replication in Argentina<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>During these months, I&#8217;ve been wondering: when would Dweck herself respond? And, what would she say?<\/p>\n<h2>The TES Interview<\/h2>\n<p>Dweck recently gave an interview to TES in which she started to answer some of these questions.<\/p>\n<p>The article they&#8217;ve published is <a href=\"https:\/\/www.tes.com\/news\/carol-dweck-where-growth-mindset-went-wrong\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">worth reading in its entirety<\/a>, and I encourage you to give it a look.<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;ll mention two highlights.<\/p>\n<p>First &#8212; unsurprisingly, to me &#8212; Dweck is open to the criticism she&#8217;s reading:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>We have produced a body of evidence that says under <strong>these\u00a0<\/strong>conditions <strong>this\u00a0<\/strong>is what happened. We have not explored all the conditions that are possible.<\/p>\n<p>Teacher feedback on what is working and not working is hugely valuable to us to tell us what we have not done and what we need to do. [emphasis added]<\/blockquote>\n<p>In other words: if people are trying mindset interventions and they&#8217;re not working, she wants to know about that. She&#8217;s not pretending those concerns aren&#8217;t real.<\/p>\n<h2>What Should Teachers Do?<\/h2>\n<p>Second, Dweck emphasizes that mindset interventions should not be one-time events.<\/p>\n<p>Anything that happens just once &#8212; &#8220;a chart at the front of the room, a lecture where you define the two mindsets&#8221; &#8212; isn&#8217;t likely to work.<\/p>\n<p>Instead, we should focus on &#8220;the policies and practices in the classroom. <em>It is not about teaching the concept alone<\/em>, it is much more about implementing practices that focus on growth and learning.&#8221; [emphasis added]\n<p>That is: if we tell students about the perils of fixed mindsets and the benefits of growth mindsets, we might feel like we&#8217;ve set them on the right path.<\/p>\n<p>But: if our own language, classroom methods, and grading policies imply fixed mindsets, then that mindset mini-lesson won&#8217;t help very much.<\/p>\n<h2>A Brainy Analogy<\/h2>\n<p>Regular readers know that I&#8217;m writing several posts about working memory: <a href=\"https:\/\/braindevs.net\/blog\/\/obsessed-with-working-memory-part-i\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">what it is<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/braindevs.net\/blog\/\/obsessed-with-working-memory-part-ii\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">why it&#8217;s important<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/braindevs.net\/blog\/\/obsessed-with-working-memory-anticipating-overload\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">how to use that information<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>I do NOT think that teachers should tell students about working memory. If we do &#8212; ironically &#8212; we&#8217;re just using up their scarce working-memory resources.<\/p>\n<p>Instead, we should use our knowledge of WM to modify and hone our teaching practices.<\/p>\n<p>So, too, with mindset. Our students don&#8217;t need us to tell them the theory. They need us to <em>act on our own knowledge of the theory<\/em> &#8212; to modify and hone our teaching practices.<\/p>\n<p>That approach will take more sustained effort. It might not have a dramatic, immediate effect. But, given Dweck&#8217;s four decades of research, it&#8217;s much likelier to yield the subtle, long-term benefits that enhance learning.<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p>Full disclosure: I&#8217;m not a neutral observer in this debate. I&#8217;ve just published a book on Mindset. Your opinion about my opinion might reasonably be swayed by that knowledge.<\/p>\n<p>If you&#8217;re interested in such a book, you can see Rebecca Gotlieb&#8217;s review <a href=\"https:\/\/braindevs.net\/blog\/\/learning-grows-the-science-of-motivation-for-the-classroom-teacher\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">here<\/a>.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Carol Dweck has responded to recent concerns about her Mindset theory. 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